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Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?
Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?
IGN.com - March 20, 2009
Submitted by iamnerp (496) at 12:17AM PST on March 21, 2009
Reports suggest that new hardware malfunctions may be growing in frequency.
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1apujanata posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 5:28PM PST on March 30, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@Joe80,
I played mostly RPG and adventure in the 80's & 90's. Then I became more SRPG (Strategy RPG, think Fire Emblem or FF Tactics) oriented in 00's.
I don't play driving games (except Mario Kart), fighting games (except SSBB), FPS games (except RE4 and some other on rails shooters game).
The internet bandwidth factor is a big factor why I didn't play more online games. I used to play Ragnarok Online, but stopped after 1 year (and decided not to play WoW, AoC and other MMO games).
@vGInfidel,
I don't think I am casual, since I played game non-stop since 1980's (university) till now.
@Welshbloke,
Is there anyway to move a save game from one profile to another (within the same 360, or to another 360), without using Memory Card ? My friend have Elite, so he didn't have Memory Card, and he would like to move some save game around.
There are also some Wii Games that are annoying, in which we can not copy the save game to other Wii. Games like SSBB, Wii Fit. Since my house have 2 Wii, it is a hassle.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
1welshbloke posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 12:17AM PST on March 30, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@Joe80,
Odd about your model being noisy. I bought a new Arcade just before Christmas, it is not the latest model with the memory and NXE on the chip. It Soooo quiet I am very jealous.
I purchased an Arcade because I was not expecting to use any other functionality. No Gold, HDD although it is networked (mainly because I cannot pass an Ethernet port without making it live). To be honest it is an absolute joy with just enough memory supplied that it has not been an issue. The only problem we have is my boy got further on Kameo downstairs and I could not transfer the save to his which was annoying.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 60 ]bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 7:59PM PST on March 29, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@vGInfidel,
I'd expect them to be mostly on Wii than multiple console owners. Not just that, but many casual gamers are buying XBLA games, some DLC, and using online features, though yes lower use than core.
I don't think of apujanata as casual so it felt odd to hear he won't use any of those features.[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1vGInfidel posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 6:48PM PST on March 29, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 5:28PM PST on March 29, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@apujanata,
You're definitely an odd exception to the average player.
If you have rechargeable batteries already then you're in a good position.
What type of games do you like? Traditional RPG and adventure?[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1apujanata posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 4:38PM PST on March 29, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@Joe80,
I have no plan to buy XBLA game, nor download demo (limited bandwidth), nor DLC. Wii's VC is much, much more interesting to me, therefore I didn't need XBLA. I also planned to upgrade to at least component cable (I don't have HDMI enabled TV). Why do I need to spent 20-30 on recharger ? Couldn't I just use normal AA rechargeable batteries, like the one I use for Wii-mote (2 batteries each wii-mote) ?
Those 3 PS3 exclusives you mentioned is not my cup of gaming. Uncharted might be more to my personal taste than those games.
Depending on the games released on Wii, I could probably get away with NOT buying PS3 / X360 in 2009 or 2010. I have lots of PS2 gaming backlog, and clearing them up could take me a whole year.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 1:49PM PST on March 29, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@welshbloke,
Even with everything bundled into the PS3 when you add what you need for 360, you're almost at the same price unless you go the Arcade route and never play online nor ever download demos, games, DLC, etc (no Live, no HDD).
My new model built last OCT is as noisy as my launch model was, maybe even more noisy. Although this might be an exception.[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1welshbloke posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 1:24AM PST on March 29, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@soupsoup,
You mentioned you sent your back with the E74 error but got a noisy one back. Would that mean you had a reasonable old model as noise does not seem to be a problem on the newer models and I was under the impression you were supposed to get back the same model you sent i.e. one with a HDMI port.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 60 ]bids
1welshbloke posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 1:22AM PST on March 29, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?When I was referring to wireless interference I was referring to WiFi as opposed to the technique used to connect the controllers. I have never had a problem with the controllers. I live in highly densely populated city and wireless interference is a very big problem.
As for Batteries yes I can eat batteries fortunately for me I have a pretty limitless supply so not a factor for me. I guess otherwise I would of gone down the Plug and Charge route.
The point I argue in favour of the 360 consoles over the PS3 and the reason why I believe the PS3 has lost market share this generation when it should be streets ahead is they did bundle everything together. The price maybe coming down now and becoming increasingly more affordable but so is the competition.
Apujunata is a case in point the Arcade will probably meet his immediate needs. If he does decide to purchase add-ons then he can stagger his payments which will actually mean he will now purchase these items without much thought. I do not necessarily agree with the pricing of Microsoft add-ons but it has proven to be a good tactic. Of course he could choose no to buy anything at all, this is choice in action.
I confess to playing the Blue Dragon demo. Not my cup of tea but horses for courses I suppose.
PhilH, I notice somebody bid you down over your choice of Uncharted. A little bit harsh in my opinion.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 60 ]bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 8:27PM PST on March 28, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@apujanata,
I thought 360 used their own wireless signal, not Bluetooth like the other consoles? Blue Dragon is decent, but there are better RPGs out there. I'm just saying I'd look farther beyond what you've played.
360 Arcade as far as I see from Amazon, BB, GS still comes with 256mb unit but I had also thought they upped it to 512mb or it was integrated into the hardware with Jaspers.
I'm not trying to be fanboyish, just coming from someone who has owned 360 for years and PS3 for months. I'd go with PS3. I wouldn't recommend it so strongly if I didn't feel there was a significant difference in what you get in terms of price, reliability, games, features, etc.
Arcade 200 (no HDD, in all likelihood you'd find yourself buy an HDD eventually unless you never plan to buy XBLA game), 20-30 recharger, upgrade to component cable or HDMI 40 & 50 or 4 depending on if 360 works with generic HDMI. So you're paying 224-280 for it with no HDD. Add an HDD, which most people end up doing and you're up to the price of a PS3. Only extra purchase you need with PS3 is HDMI for 4 or component for 20-25. Like PS3 360 looks like crap on composite cable. You don't need HDTV, but definitely something above composite. And it may very well go RROD on you.
It's all about not being only the price it is advertised as.
I regret buying my 360 twice, 1st time and replacing it with a new one when it broke and was not repaired correctly (before PS3). It's sitting boxed up now since December.
Best PS3 exclusives: LBP, Valkyria Chronicles, Killzone 2.[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1PhilHarrision posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 4:14PM PST on March 28, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@apujanata,If you are looking for single player experience and online is irrelevant to you then I'm sure you'll find plenty to play on the Xbox. As for my favourite PS3 exclusive...I'd have to say Uncharted would be near the top of my list or Valkyria Chronicles.[ Guru ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 424 ]bids
1apujanata posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 3:50PM PST on March 28, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@Joe80,
I don't have any plan to play multiplayer on either X360 or PS3. In fact, I seldom play multiplayer on Wii, except for Mario Kart Wii. Therefore, the fact that I have to pay for Gold Live is irrelevant. Wireless X360 should also not a problem (no interference with my wireless Wii-mote, and they are both based on the same blue-tooth tech, IIRC).
I know that lots of people didn't like Blue Dragon, but I played in on my friend's X360, and I like it, a lot. Maybe because I like Toriyama drawings. Whatever anyone said about Blue Dragon (not specifically targeted to you), I know it, and I like it. :)
If you considered MGS4 as NOT best PS3 exclusive, what game you considered as BEST PS3 exclusive ? The reason I bought PS2 is because of Koei's Dynasty Tactics, a game that not many people played, especially the Japanese version (first version I played, and made FAQ).
I planned to buy X360 Arcade, especially since they are now bundled with FREE 512 MB Memory card (or is it 20GB now ?).[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 3:01PM PST on March 28, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@welshbloke,
I disagree that 360's reliability may now be better than PS3's. Also disagree that the savings are big. You save $100 but then you pay for Live, 2 years of Live will cost you anywhere from $60-$100. And you also need to buy a battery recharger for $20-$30. So the machines are equal in price. I don't see this as trying to argue that PS3 has more features for price.[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 2:55PM PST on March 28, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@PhilHarrision,
I don't think it's always advertised maybe or you just need to find a coupon code to enter. They either offer roughly 20% off all consoles at the same time or rotate the savings. I know they had PS3 for just over $300 weeks ago. Don't know why you were bid down.[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1welshbloke posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 12:42PM PST on March 28, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@PhilHarrision,
I was not referring to you or anybody in particular as the PS3 crowd. I have seen the item but not the surveys or the numbers which is why I say it is something people are grabbing onto. All the evidence I have seen to date indicate this to be a very small problem mainly because we have no real evidence.
The benefit over the PS3 and its simple facts are that they do not need to purchase this technology. I own one console with a HDD an original still waiting to die and a new Arcade. I gave up on wireless a long time ago because of problems with interference and capacity and moved to home plug which is why I always recommend they spend the money on one of them rather than the overly priced 360 wireless solution.
I also have helped PS3 owners with Ethernet and Wireless connections ultimately going for Ethernet or Home plug but then I have only been called due to problems so this is in no way a slight on the PS3 and Wireless.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 60 ]bids
1PhilHarrision posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 5:50AM PST on March 28, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@welshbloke, My e74 link was specifically chosen as it is a xbox specific site. e74 seems to definately be an underlying problem that has become more pronounced since the launch of NXE and/or Jasper.
As for 'the PS3 crowd' I assume you are refering to Joe80 and myself...both of us own the 360 so please don't lump me in. It is a simple fact that if you want wireless online gaming with decent media storage you can be better off with the PS3. I think I was pretty clear in implying that if it was something the OP wants he should be cognisant of the price. If you want a single player, non media centric, wired experience the Xbox is a good choice (though you risk the issue of high defective rate).
If the OP buys an 360 I say great...just do it with your eyes open and don't look back...enjoy the console(s) you choose.[ Guru ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 424 ]bids
2welshbloke posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 1:53AM PST on March 28, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?I think you need to put this into perspective. What this appears to me is people are looking for the next RROD on the Xbox. What I would say to anyone looking to purchase a 360 is that make sure it is one of the new ones which if you are buying at retail and not off a friend or Ebay it will most likely be.
I suspect that failures of the new units are very small but it does not take many to break a story on failure for the 360. That is the RROD legacy that it has yet to overcome. The problems the 360 has now I would venture are no worse and probably better than those for the PS3.
The 360 is cheaper even a HDD model do not let the PS3 crowd confuse the issue by introducing all its features then declaring the is 360 more expensive it is not.
If you want to go online and play multi player then yes you will need Gold. You do not have to pay it all in one go and you can stop paying it anytime you like. I have 2 machines one has Gold the other Silver, tbh I play so few games online that I probably should drop the gold account.
If you require a wireless solution may a suggest you investigate home plugs. They are far more robust and very simple to setup, although not wireless they are damn close. I switched to them for all my needs at home and have no radio related issues and get perferct throughput and low latency.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 60 ]bids
1PhilHarrision posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 10:39PM PST on March 27, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@Joe80,Just checked Dell.com...doesn't seem so. I took advantage of the SONY card...great deal. BTW...since we are talking price I'm as exposed as reasonable on the April PS3 future...big announcement coming on March 31st according to Kotaku...SONY goes into a new fiscal year...maybe a price drop?[ Guru ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 424 ]bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 9:43PM PST on March 27, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@PhilHarrision,
Forgot controller recharger definitely a required purchase as well, another $20-30. I'm definitely done with Live too. Doesn't Dell have all systems for like 20% off or something?[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1spot-on posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 9:34PM PST on March 27, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?bids
0PhilHarrision posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 8:28PM PST on March 27, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@Joe80, And you'll have to be hardwired or pay for a wireless dongle. You can get a PS3 for 299 with the SONY card too so it is a superior value imo. Can't say I will renew my LIVE subscription next time it comes up personally...I like single player games.[ Guru ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 424 ]bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 6:24PM PST on March 27, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@apujanata,
I must say Blue Dragon wasn't that great and MGS4 is not best PS3 exclusive. I don't see why you would say 360 is much cheaper unless you don't plan to use the HDD at all nor play online? Because if you go for the 60gb you only save $100 and then you need to pay for Live.[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1apujanata posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 5:28PM PST on March 27, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@Joe80,
No. My friend have both PS3 and X360 (no Wii for him yet), so friend's ownership doesn't count (if it count, I wouldn't have 2 Wii). I am leaning towards X360 now (was leaning toward PS3 during launch period, but changed my mind on 2008) because :
- It is much, much cheaper (and I don't need Blu-ray player)
- There are some exclusives I like on X360 (Blue Dragon) and PS3's exclusive didn't interest me (MGS4).
If X360 didn't have any H/W problem, I would have bought it this year (didn't have money on Christmas 08). Now I might buy DSi instead, or maybe Wii Ware games (now that I can play game from SDHC SD Card).[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
1Animate posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 6:00PM PST on March 24, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@apujanata,
With all that said about 360, what pros are pushing you to get it? Is it because that's what your friend has?[ Oracle ] [ Level 26 ] [ Rank: 241 ]bids
1apujanata posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 4:50PM PST on March 24, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@soupsoup,
One of the reason I haven't bought X360 yet is because that console is plagued with problems. RROD, Disc scratching, loud noises, and E74. I keep on delaying the purchase because once a problem was fixed, another problem surface (or became big enought that I became aware of it).
I know that PS2 early build also have problems, but it is not as bad as X360. Even XBOX is better designed and build then X360.
I would really like to have X360 in my house, and doesn't have to go to friend's house to play it's games, but I am not going to spend money on it until the system is almost H/W problem free. I prefer spending my money on buying games, not repairing console or buying extended warranty. I also hate the vacant gaming time, time between having a console issue (broken down) and getting it back on working status (repaired and arrive at home, available to play).[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
1soupsoup posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 7:13PM PST on March 23, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?I got hit with the E74 error last year, before the release of NXE. From what I read on forums at the time it seemed like a pretty common problem even then. Luckily mine was still under warranty and MS fixed it. Unfortunately, the 360 I got back makes more noise than a vacuum cleaner.[ Guru ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 237 ]bids
1apujanata posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 5:33PM PST on March 22, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@PhilHarrision,
Oh well. It seems I need to delay or cancel my plan to buy X360. I was planning to buy X360 once it manage to drive down the RROD, but this new possibly significant percentage of Error 74 is bad news. I guess I will keep playing at my friend's house.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
0PhilHarrision posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 6:40PM PST on March 21, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?@apujanata,Yes. http://www.xboxist.com/xbox-360/news/do-new-xbox-360-units-suffer-from-e74-error-009742.php[ Guru ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 424 ]bids
1apujanata posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 5:12PM PST on March 21, 2009. RE: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?bids
9iamnerp posted on Xbox 360 (Xbox 360) at 12:17AM PST on March 21, 2009. Article: Xbox 360 Error 74 on the Rise?
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From my experience I would say no. I had a little trawl around and although it is possible it would not of worked for me as it involved deleting the profile.
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