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Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360
Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360
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Submitted by -THE-RAY- (272) at 12:14PM PST on January 1, 2008
01 January 2008 -- XboxFamily.com claims that a Konami distribution representative said that Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming to the Xbox 360. Speaking at a distribution meeting, the Konami rep allegedly informed XboxFamily.com that MGS4 had been in development for the Xbox 360 since early 2007 and will be released for the 360 between 12 to 14 months after the PS3 version hits shelves.
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1zeromous posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 6:25AM PST on January 9, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360@sagexsdx,
The 360 is not a factor in Japan, where the game is developed. The only way Konami will put this on x360 is if they need the platform to recoup losses.
If this were to happen it would cost them a lot to port their traditionally proprietary engine to directX at great cost.
North America might be the biggest market, but worldwide, Sony is gaining ground. They outsold the 360 world wide this christmas: PSP sold more than 360, PS2 sold more than 360 and PSP sold more than 360. The only other company that can claim that is Nintendo, which I guess leaves Microsoft as the one with the poorest growth (unacceptable for a console in its third christmas mind You!)
So I think you really need to look at worldwide numbers when formulating an opinion on MGS4's chances. To port a game of this magnitude for a single platform in a single region is unlikely to be profitable for Konami with less than 30 million 360s out in the world and a predicted cap of 50-60 million over its lifetime (which unfortunately I feel is overvalued).
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2Mushashi posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 11:24AM PST on January 8, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360@zeromous,
My comments were mainly in reply to the theory that a late port to Xbox 360 would affect sales of the initial PS3 version.
I have no solid opinion of sales levels for the PS3 version itself. It depends on how great this new MGS4 game is, if it reinvigorates the franchise then it may sell aswell as is currently predicted on here. I know Konami have specifically tweaked the game to appeal more to a western audience (who also are the main buyers of the games).[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 5 ]bids
2sagexsdx posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 10:52AM PST on January 8, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360@zeromous,
well i might argue that the reason why it doesnt sell well on pc is because it really is a game more well suited for consoles.
the reason why it didnt sell well on xbox is because relative to ps2s, no one had xboxes.
fast forward to today and there are many more 360s in american consumer hands than ps3s.
also i definitely disagree with your comments that the ps3 is gaining ground on the 360. if you look at monthly sales, there is no reason to believe that ps3 is gaining ground on 360. at the very most, you could say it's keeping up.
but to note is that i speak of american numbers. if konami is looking at it only from a japanese perspective, then there's more merit to konami not bringing it to 360.
i think an important thing to add to this conversation is how well MGS sells in america. if it sells well in america, then 360 sales numbers are a factor. if not, then i dont see why konami would bring it to the 360.[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 148 ]bids
1zeromous posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 10:46AM PST on January 8, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360@welshbloke
As per my previous comments, I think it makes less business sense to put this out on 360 based on the market. Konami may agree for the same reasons, and are probably more than anything regretting the position the Sony exclusivity agreement puts them in (read unable to maximize their profits).
However, PS3 is gaining ground on the 360 as expected. By Xmas next year you will see the 360 and PS3 neck in neck, but since the 360 doesn't do well in Japan, and previous Xbox/PC sales records for the franchise, they just may forget about the whole idea and pray for a successful run on PS3 only.
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1zeromous posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 10:43AM PST on January 8, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360@Mushashi,
You are right, Metal Gear has never done well on PC or 360. There is very little reason to believe an after-thought port, would endear many to Metal Gear.
Like MGS2 it will be old news and probably surpassed by the time it comes out on 360, and will likely compete for shelf space with Halo 4.
So basically MGS4 doesn't stand a chance on the 360 platform. I think it would be a bad idea to port all of that proprietary code Konami is famous for to DirectX to sell to all of 100,000 japanese Xbox owners and 20 million peeps in the US.[ Veteran ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 878 ]bids
3zeromous posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 10:38AM PST on January 8, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360@Mushashi,
Here's what I don't understand, this is still too high....
*We're currently predicting MGS4 to outsell previous metal gears on PS2.
*There is a downward trend in sales since MGS2, even though MGS3 was a great game in comparison. This includes special editions...see for yourself.
*We're predicting PS3 sales to be in the 50-60 million range instead of 100 million range essentially doubling Metal Gear Solid's attach rate (which has never been close to the 1 in 9 or 10 we are predicting for MGS4)
*Although this will not be on 360 ever (or not for 12-14 months, it will have 0 impact on PS3 sales of MGS4 after a full year cycle). There are very few "softcore" Metal Gear players willing to wait 12-14 months.
*PS3 is facing more competition than ever, why do expect them to sell less PS3s but more Metal Gears than ever before? Those who have bought 360 and WOULD wait for MGS4 to be ported are so few and far between, who exactly is making up this sales growth...the casual Wii Sports gamer? I think not.
So why is this hovering around 500 DKP, should be more like 400.
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2Mushashi posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 7:10AM PST on January 3, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360When MGS2 was ported to Xbox a long time after the original PS2 release, it did not sell well. How many Xbox 360 owners seriously want to play this series of games is a key factor wether PS3 sales of it will be affected if this rumour is true, DMC4 sales may provide an indicator of how typical Xbox 360 owners view key traditionally PlayStation console franchises[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 5 ]bids
2Dictionary posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 8:46PM PST on January 2, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360Although the credibility of this story is questionable, this is an indicator that there is still risk that this title will not be an exclusive, which will cannibalize the sales of the PS3 version. I believe the stock should be trading at a significant haircut from the current price of 480 DKP.[ Speaker ] [ Level 18 ] [ Rank: 543 ]bids
2ixaarii posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 4:42PM PST on January 1, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360@-THE-RAY-,
The long timeframe makes this rumor more probable for me. If they went say 1 year later Sony would be happy,Konami would get their money and 360 owners would get a big game no later than PC players get 360 exclusives sometimes: late enough for the word "exclusive" to matter but not long enough to become completelly irrelevant... or ...[ Oracle ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 444 ]bids
0apujanata posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 2:26PM PST on January 1, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360@-THE-RAY-,
Is this an attempt by Xboxfamily to spread FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) so depress PS3 sales ? How trustworthy is Xboxfamily with rumours ? Any proven trackrecord with rumour (that turned out to be real) ?[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
2welshbloke posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 12:25PM PST on January 1, 2008. RE: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 360Just another rumour? probably. It does not make business sense to stick with the PS3 when the title will have such a big development cost so it is probably inevitable.
Will the 360 community care about this game in 2 years time if we assume June is the release date of MGS4 for the PS3? probably but 2 years is long time I am not sure we will be that bothered which makes me think that if it does happen it would happen sooner.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 60 ]bids
24-THE-RAY- posted on Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) at 12:14PM PST on January 1, 2008. Article: Metal Gear Solid 4 Coming to Xbox 36001 January 2008 -- XboxFamily.com claims that a Konami distribution representative said that Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming to the Xbox 360. Speaking at a distribution meeting, the Konami rep allegedly informed XboxFamily.com that MGS4 had been in development for the Xbox 360 since early 2007 and will be released for the 360 between 12 to 14 months after the PS3 version hits shelves.[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 272 ]
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Mushashi, yes I realize that, sorry if I diverged from my point earlier. What I mean to say is, Metal Gear players are hardcore and
1) not going to wait to play
2) will play it on whatever platform it comes out on first
3) generally choose Metal Gear over other shooters given a choice
This is why sales of hyped games like Metal Gear under-perform when compared to other AAA titles. Metroid is similar in theory....
I think we will see a continuation of the reinvigoration MGS3 gave to the series. Now that survival and camoflauge have added to the complexity of Metal Gear, I think this one is going to continue to flesh out the concept of mercenaries and bring the game in a new direction.
I think American gamers will respond well to this and the new optional controls (I like the old ones just fine personally), but if you're expecting them in droves to a game that had lost its American audience, I'm not sure MGS4 will be enough to repair that rift in tastes competing against games like Halo, Call of Duty, Warhawk and other more "American Fare".