I would disagree about more people being familiar with GT than Halo. I only own Halo Combat Evolved (PC) and have not bought a Halo game since Not because I did not like the game but because I had friends who had Halo 2 and now Halo 3 for their Xboxs. My other friends and me usually just have two or three people who actually buy Halo then we just use extra controllers (which I already have for my PC to play Pro Evo with). I know a lot less people who go over to their friend's place to play GT, due to this I think less people are acquainted with the GT series than the Halo series.
I own all the games in the GT series but that is only because I would not go over to my friend's place to play GT, the series hasn't geared toward that type of play as much. The current price for GT is pretty good, since most of the people I know who have bought GT games in the past can't wait for GT5, most are just waiting for the PS3 price to drop and this game to be released.
All great points and statistics, but also all comparing against consoles that had MASSIVELY larger installed bases in the beginning, middle and twilight of almost every one of those games' sales cycles.
I guess I just don't believe GT5 can be a "console selling app" based on the fact that it may have been for the PS2. The PS2 came out in an era where it was primed to crush the market, whereas Sony is now essentially on their heels and in damage control phase in terms of the console wars. Thanks for the stats, though, mind sharing where you got them?
Was GT a console mover, or did it benefit from the huge install bases of the PS/PS2? Does anyone have any info on console sales before/after GT launch?
@chill21genlee, Note I only hold 5 shares in this game, so my opinion is not biased.
The first GT game released on each Playstation was the one with the best sales. GT3 14.87 million GT1 10.85 million GT2 9.37 million GT4 8.79 million & still selling
You believe GT4 can't sell as well as a FF title, but the numbers say it can/does. FF VII 9.72 million FF X 7.95 million FF VIII 7.86 million FF XII 4.94 million & still selling FF IX 5.30 million
Likewise the same rationale behind MGS vs GT: MGS1 5.59 million MGS2 5.56 million MGS3 3.96 million (not including the Special Edition Releases)
Given all of this info I am trying to show that GT is a better selling game than FF or MGS games, and likewise it may be more of a console mover. But I think GT5 could be a little overvalued at this point, MGS4 could be a little less overvalued, & FFXIII could be a little overvalued.
like I said, I don't believe it will be as big, I'm just trying to explain where the idea is coming from.
If you look at GT sales in the past you'll see that they did in fact beat out Halo sales, so technically there are more people familiar with GT than with Halo.
Its just a question of whether or not those people will upgrade to a PS3.
I can see where each of those factors may aide in sales to a degree, but I can't foresee it having as much of an impact as predicted. The market for this stock is essentially propping it up as a console seller with sales relative to Halo 3 on the 360, relative as there is obviously a pretty huge delta in the installed bases for the 2 platforms. Can you justify the assertion that a Gran Turismo game will do for the PS3 what H3 did for the 360. You make good points, I just don't think they are going to be as huge as predicted.
The basic idea is that this game will convert many PS2 owners to the PS3 and the game will maintain a fair amount of sales from the previous games, not to mention it will likely end up bundled with the PS3, like GT was for the PS2.
I am personally skeptical of this, but we'll see how it goes.
Almost 6 1/2 Million Copies of a Racing Game on PS3?? Granted it's Gran Turismo, but still. What possible rationale could there be for thinking this game will sell 2 million more copies than MGS4, and almost as many copies as GTA IV and the next "real" Final Fantasy game (which is also WAY overpriced IMO). Am I missing something here? I am just dumbfounded that we as a community think this racing sim game, for PS3 to boot, could possibly reach these lofty heights. To put things in an admittedly not completely one to one perspective, Motorstorm has sold ONE TENTH of this projection so far, and I believe that includes the copies that are bundled!
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I would disagree about more people being familiar with GT than Halo. I only own Halo Combat Evolved (PC) and have not bought a Halo game since Not because I did not like the game but because I had friends who had Halo 2 and now Halo 3 for their Xboxs. My other friends and me usually just have two or three people who actually buy Halo then we just use extra controllers (which I already have for my PC to play Pro Evo with). I know a lot less people who go over to their friend's place to play GT, due to this I think less people are acquainted with the GT series than the Halo series.
I own all the games in the GT series but that is only because I would not go over to my friend's place to play GT, the series hasn't geared toward that type of play as much. The current price for GT is pretty good, since most of the people I know who have bought GT games in the past can't wait for GT5, most are just waiting for the PS3 price to drop and this game to be released.