Yes, I think it is a shame. Forza 3 for me had it all then I discover no weather effects which I find frankly bizarre especially as one of the highly featured gameplay footage was of Le Mans.
Then we see a half arsed Damage system implemented by GT5.
I am a 360 man so Forza will get my vote as I will not be buying PS3 for any one game but what about rest of you which one is crippled the least, Forza 3 or GT5?
If I was trying to be neutral I think I would still go for Forza 3 as it looks to be more fun.
@KultofCows, At least no-one is buying Mario Kart for it's realistic driving experience (no damage consequences). They are buying it for the fun and frantic race (thanks to the items, like bullet bill or spiny shell).
So there would be no damage dealt to your car in any other mode when you hit obstacles or other cars? I always felt that was one of the core factors to a racing game. While you drive very fast, you have to be careful as to not damage your car and resulting performance hits to your car later in the race (and damage you have to repair with your winnings as in these RPG-like racing games). If the only cost to hit obstacles is having to re-accelerate, it makes the game far less realistic (which is what these games are going for) and more like bumper cars...or Mario Kart.
During the recent Gamerscon new gameplay footage was shown of GT5. One of the interesting points that has come about is the limited damage system with the damage system being limited to NASCAR and Rally and not being as complete as the Forza 3 option.
From my perspective this is as dissapointing as Forza 3's lack of weather.
On the official Gran Turismo 5 site, the latest spec sheet for the game touts that its physics model "completely renders deformation from crash." Not scratches, not scuffs, but deformation. (Backing up what we saw in the E3 trailer for the game.)
The site also reveals that, in what seems to be an attempt to make up for the absence of spectacular crashes, cars will flip and even land upside-down in reaction to collisions. (joystiq)
I have seen a couple of rumours suggesting that the game may release before the Xmas holiday period. This obviously will be very important and will help the sales enormously.
I am currently shorting this stock so my position is based on that but I am struggling to see this sell the 9+ million we currently predict even if the game launches in 2009.
GT5P has only sold 3+ million estimated, I understand this was only effectively the wolds most expensive demo (Although not any more now it can be had for only £18 in the UK) but I do not belive the PS3 can support sales above 5 million of anything currently. GT5 has real competition in Forza 3 brand loyalty aside this will make some difference especially if they do not make the game for the end of 2009.
I would be interested in peoples reasoning for predicting 9+ million other than it sold a lot on the PS2.
Buying into this stock I was anticipating a release around 4-6 months into 2009! I am hearing news that the expected release date is going to be around christmas 2009! This is truly a LOOOOOOOOOONG investment stance!
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Then we see a half arsed Damage system implemented by GT5.
I am a 360 man so Forza will get my vote as I will not be buying PS3 for any one game but what about rest of you which one is crippled the least, Forza 3 or GT5?
If I was trying to be neutral I think I would still go for Forza 3 as it looks to be more fun.