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SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records
SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records
Yahoo - March 17, 2008
Submitted by gray_160 (747) at 2:28PM PST on March 17, 2008
After just one week on store shelves, Super Smash Bros.® Brawl for Wii has become the fastest-selling video game in Nintendo of America's history. Since its launch on March 9, the feature-packed fighting action game has sold more than 1.4 million units in the United States, including more than 874,000 on March 9 alone. It has sold at a rate of more than 120 units per minute between launch and March 16.
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1starship posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 8:18PM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@apujanata,Oops, sorry about that. I should have not posted them this way.
On topic:
You may consider a few things:
In 2005, Xbox was almost a dead system. How about comparing sales of Halo 2 and SSBM a year after that? In both Nov. and Dec. of 2006, Halo 2 outsold SSBM easily (50k vs 25k in Nov and 150k vs 95k in Dec.) Its sales in both Jan and Feb of 2007 were more than double of SSBM's one. In sep of 2007, almost 3 years after release, Halo 2 sold nearly 50k while SSBM sold less than 10k. During 2005 and 2006 Halo 2 sold more than 1.4m copies. Also it sold extremely well during 2007 too, in its third year.
I meant that Halo is not a type of game that sells well in its first months and then disappear from the charts, it will sell consistently for years after its release.[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 297 ]bids
2apujanata posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 4:51PM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@starship,
First : You shouldn't post the actual #. Remember your promise.
If you really have to post the #, you should put something vague, like : Jan - Oct 2004 : Halo : 60K - 100K. Nov - Dec 2004 : 100K - 150K
You focused on Halo, which do have legs (especially with the Platinum pack).
How about Halo 2, which was released on Nov 9, 2004 ? In April - Dec 05, only a few months after release, their monthly sales is only 25 - 35K. Would you still say that Halo 2 is considered as "having legs" ?
In August 2005, Halo 2 sales # are ONLY 1K above SSBM. Imagine that, a less than one year released game selling only slightly better than than a game that was released 4 years before (Dec 2001). If this didn't convince you that Halo 2 (and most probably Halo 3) is a game that doesn't have legs, nothing else will convince you.
Finally, there is a possibility that you will say "well, SSBM have a very long legs, and Halo 2 also have legs, but not as long as SSBM". In that case, I can only say "your definition of legs is different than mine, so let's agree to disagree on the definition of legs".[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
1lstormy10 posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 2:29PM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Recordsbids
2starship posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 1:58PM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@lstormy10,These are leaked NPD data that were being posted at GAF back in the day.[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 297 ]bids
1lstormy10 posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 1:31PM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@starship,
There are some differences in the Halo and Pokemon comparison that make the comparison pretty iffy.
Also, SSBB is bound to be a game with strong legs and a comparison with Halo 3 is unwieldy due to the large number of differences (other games being released in the genre, platform, audience, etc).
Nice work in getting the numbers together, where did you get them from?[ Oracle ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 294 ]bids
1starship posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 1:20PM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Recordsbids
3starship posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 1:11PM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@apujanata,IMO the very definition of legs is that a game has staying power and sells steadily and consistently for a long period of time. These are 2004 data (many thanks to yourself):
Jan:
Halo - 104,123
SSBM - 40,035
Feb:
Halo - 88,979
SSBM - 40,174
Mar:
Halo - 83,338
SSBM - 51,950
Apr:
Halo - 86,259
SSBM - 35,924
May:
Halo - 62,572
SSBM - 28,192
Jun:
Halo - 100,016
SSBM - 53,090
Jul:
Halo - 92,660
SSBM - 43,549
Aug:
Halo - 88,488
SSBM - 38,328
Sep:
Halo - 87,529
SSBM - 36,422
Oct:
Halo - 63,886
SSBM - 28,028
Nov:
Halo - 106,231
SSBM - 42,521
Dec:
Halo - 152,976
SSBM - 152,962
I think any game that sells an average of 93k monthly in its third year, will be qualified for having great legs.
Again, with limited installed base, when a game sells a huge amount in its first month, you shouldn't expect it to not drop drastically, but if the game keeps selling and remains as one of the best selling games in the next months (and even years) then I say it has great legs.
Halo 3 will probably remain in the top 30 best selling games of each month in 2008 and even 2009.[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 297 ]bids
1apujanata posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 9:19AM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@sagexsdx,
I didn't infer that Halo 3 severe drop in second month mean there was no interest for Halo 3, but I am just stating the fact, and made my conclusion that Halo 3 doesn't have legs.
Since Halo 3 1st M sales are very high, it might not be suitable for comparison against Pokemon, with their 1st M sales of only 1 Million (each), or 2 Million (combined). But I am sure you will agree that Pokemon's 67% or 68% drop is significantly less severe than Halo 3's 83% drop, right ? I mean, the remaining 17% for Halo 3 is only HALF of remaining 33% for Pokemon, which certainly qualify as significant difference.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
2sagexsdx posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 8:02AM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@apujanata,
well of course the first month sales for halo 3 (3.3 mil) were much higher than a normal first month sales. i think in halo 3's case, the drop off was to more "normal" sales numbers. so the 83% drop isn't necessarily because of a lack of interest but rather a normalization of sales.[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 148 ]bids
2apujanata posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 7:31AM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@starship,
How drastic is drastic for those 1 Million + first month seller ? Will it have different % for 1 Million +, compared to 2 Million + ?
The very definition of legs, is that the drop is not drastic. Let's compare Halo 3, a game I do not consider as having legs, with Pokemon, a game I consider as having legs.
Halo 3 1st M vs. 2nd M is 83% drop.
Pokemon Diamond 1st M vs. 2nd M is 68% drop.
Pokemon Pearl 1st M vs. 2nd M is 67% drop.
What happened if SSBB 2nd month is 23% (67% drop) of it's 1st month, and the first so happen to be 2.8 Million ? It became 644 K.
What happened IF SSBB 2nd month is way better than Pokemon ? Say like Wario Ware : Smooth moves, with it's 46% drop ? That means SSBB 2nd month could be 1.512 Million. Of course, the possibility of 1.5 Million second month is very slim, but getting 1 Million or 800K is not impossible.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
1starship posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 12:01AM PST on March 18, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@apujanata,
The original Halo and Halo 2 are still selling FWIW.
When a game sells more than 3m in its first month, you can't expect it to not drop drastically in the next months.[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 297 ]bids
3lstormy10 posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 7:02PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@apujanata,
The Super Smash Bros series has always had long legs (especially in the form SSBM). If this title is able to maintain sales like SSBM, which it is already surpassing, then this title could be a best seller all the way into the last months of the current Wii platform (just like SSBM, which was the top selling GC title throughout the lifespan of the GC including for one of the very last months of the GC right after the Wii came out).[ Oracle ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 294 ]bids
3apujanata posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 6:39PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@Just_Ben,
I wouldn't categorize Halo as a game that have "long legs".
The april # should be very, very interesting. Will I be wrong again, or will be right this time ?[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
2Just_Ben posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 5:56PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@apujanata,
Ah well, Halo has also long legs (as anybody can see) but dropped in its second month down to 400k. If you sell those for months, you have legs ;) No I hold my short for april, still think it will drop off to a "normal high sales level".[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 112 ]bids
2Kemkle33 posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 5:51PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@apujanata,
Gives a great buy opportunity if you have faith in the franchise, which most should at this point given the numbers posted.[ Elite ] [ Level 14 ] [ Rank: 709 ]bids
2apujanata posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 5:10PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@Just_Ben,
Ha ha ha. Funny that the March is 2.5 Million at the moment, and yet the April is only 700K. That mean the market is predicting 70% drop from first month to second month, which is a little bit too pessimistic (IMO), especially since SSBM is known as one of the game with longest leg.[ Oracle ] [ Level 30 ] [ Rank: 14935 ]bids
2Just_Ben posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 4:54PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@apujanata,
O thanks, you where the one I got the shares from ;)[ Oracle ] [ Level 21 ] [ Rank: 112 ]bids
2apujanata posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 4:25PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Recordsbids
2lstormy10 posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 4:14PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Records@lstormy10,
Oops, forgot to cite my source... :)
Source:
Nintendo Press Release via GameSpot[ Oracle ] [ Level 20 ] [ Rank: 294 ]bids
2lstormy10 posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 4:09PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Recordsbids
2Just_Ben posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 3:28PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales Recordsbids
2Laoldar posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 3:13PM PST on March 17, 2008. RE: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales RecordsWhat great opening numbers!
I think it's also important to note that 526,000 were sold in the week after the first day, so it wasn't that frontloaded. That could either be because of the Sunday release date, or that sales may be consistently high for the whole month...and there are 3 weeks left for this Future.
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49gray_160 posted on Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) at 2:28PM PST on March 17, 2008. Article: SSB. Brawl Smashes Nintendo Sales RecordsAfter just one week on store shelves, Super Smash Bros.® Brawl for Wii has become the fastest-selling video game in Nintendo of America's history. Since its launch on March 9, the feature-packed fighting action game has sold more than 1.4 million units in the United States, including more than 874,000 on March 9 alone. It has sold at a rate of more than 120 units per minute between launch and March 16.[ Speaker ] [ Level 15 ] [ Rank: 747 ]
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