I would agree, vgchartz (even though it is inaccurate when dealing with low selling games) has it at .14 million or 14DKP from just America already. Along with the fact that I don't think Take-Two will allow this to be a complete failure, which means I think they will sell it at lower prices in order to clear out stock. 20DKP doesn't seem unrealistic.
Does anyone has sales numbers for the first Manhunt on the PS2 or Xbox?
By buying my shares back I would drive the stock value pretty big up. If somebody take my open orders I don't (the price is constant).
If I would buy back all my shares with the market maker, I would most likely drive the share to 50-60 DKP, and loose much much more money in the process. The buy back procedure only works if you invest small amount of money, not if you do it such big as I am.
I don't really understand your comment "zukaus is so nice to snap up the open orders and give me some of my shares back (at a pretty nice loss" and "Thx, zukaus :o) Thats a fair winner :)"
is there something about shortselling that I don't realize or understand ? I thought that once you do a shortsell, you don't really need anyone to do something for you. You can just buy back those shorted shares to made your position neutral (zero, not long and not short). Am I missing something fundamental here ?
Ah if you lost you lost. I hope it gets desisted soon, or zukaus is so nice to snap up the open orders and give me some of my shares back (at a pretty nice loss).
@zukaus, This manhunt2 is very difficult to predict. And since we might not get any confirmation about the actual sales #, it then became a fight without jury. Whoever has stronger funds (and stronger believes) win.
Just_ben, this is one of the reason I tend to avoid shortselling long (LTD) stock. Bad news seldom appear on the news, while good news are usually spread ASAP (and hence drove up long stocks).
I don't want to screw anybody over. I just happen to disagree with you on this game and believe that Manhunt 2 will sell more than 110,000 worldwide. Like yourself I also believe I am right, just like everybody else who makes a trade.
ok zukaus, you successfully screwed me over. No need to wait to buy it up. I know now I will only loose. *thumbs up* ... put it up and give me my margin call so we can get it over with.
I know I loose against you even though I am right. There will be no public announcement how many they actually shipped, because it would be to embarrassing for them.
You are right. Now go to VGC and look if you can find the game in this weeks data. It isn't there, last week: It moved 7k, and VGC didn't correct the database. This game has failed to sell, and will continue to fail.
8DKP is the right price, maybe 10 if it gets ever released in uk. This game is also on the ps2. It is not an exclusive.
If you give me a good reason why this should have sold more, I will stop, until then, I keep on rolling.
Why should it be more popular in europe? Its banned in uk and germany. That leaves only france as wii market. this games is on PS2 and southern europe will buy it on the PS2.
And why should it have done more in one week then in the next 4? and where should it get legs, it doesn't move and big chains don't have it in the us. 8 DKP is a realistic price. Why the hell should it move more in december than november? this isn't a "gift game".
6 DKP US, 2 DKP Europe.
In order to have legs (also Wii games) you need 2 things: Shelve space or word to mouth.
This game has neither. It failed. VGC has the game higher, because they work mainly with independents retailers that had that game, the majors didn't. Thats why they overshoot so heavy in November.
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I would agree, vgchartz (even though it is inaccurate when dealing with low selling games) has it at .14 million or 14DKP from just America already. Along with the fact that I don't think Take-Two will allow this to be a complete failure, which means I think they will sell it at lower prices in order to clear out stock. 20DKP doesn't seem unrealistic.
Does anyone has sales numbers for the first Manhunt on the PS2 or Xbox?