@zeromous, I think Subsistence would count toward MGS3 based on previous SE policy. For instance the special edition of Persona 3 in JA was counted toward the regular Persona 3 sales, CoD3 special editions were counted toward regular CoD3 sales. MGO & MGS4 are 2 separate games, while Subsistence was a special edition of MGS3.
As an avid player of Subsistance I can assure you it did not sell 1 million copies, and Vgchartz data is probably the closest in this case. Im not sure where wikipedia got its information...if it had sold 1 million copies the servers wouldn't have been shutdown after 6 months).
Subsistence doesn't count anyway for the purposes of the TSE, such as MGO + MGS4 are two seperate SKUs.
@zeromous, I'm not saying it should not drop. I stated earlier that I would be shorting it if it wasn't so volatile. On the plus side, you found the post I've been looking for but was unable to find, where I had stated what Jesse recently did. http://www.thesimexchange.com/community-comment.php?id=11621
This stock has a ways to go downward. This should be in the low 400 DKP range. There is no reason to believe that MGS4 will eclipse 4million copies sold, as there are barely that number of systems out in the world.
You can dismiss Subsistence, but the truth is it added to MGS3 sales. But that's not the argument here. Sony is not going to give up on gaming easily, the PS brand is what kept them afloat for a very long time. They used it to fund the rest of the company, the same way they can use the rest of the company to help fund the PS3. The PS3 is very important for them because of Bluray as well, as jameseyryan discussed. And the PS3 is linked to the successful PSP. Furthermore, the PS3 will soon make money for Sony in a new market with On Demand content. A pricecut from $600 to $500 did produce some results, but the truth is that is still too high. A further pricecut to $400 will produce much better results than a $500 SKU. And onso with each lower pricecut.
I have never said MGS4 will sell over 5 million and people seem to believe that I am either holding shares in it or believe its price on the SE should go up. I don't. I would be shorting it right now but its too volatile. I am just trying to describe how it is linked to MGS2 and its sales should not be so dependent on a linear trend from MGS3. I'll type more about this later perhaps because my mouse has stopped working.
From vgchartz: 5.56 MGS2 0.16 Substance PS2 = 5.72 million
You also might want to note, that MGS3 (an arguably superior game) sold
3.96 MGS3 0.15 Subsistance = a 4.11 million
That tells me that about 1.75 million people somewhat regretted buying MGS2 (I'd say they are ignorant, but that's not what this post is about) and chose not to add a better follow-up title to their collection.
Considering the install base of PS3 is so weakthere is no way this title will eclipse 5 million in its lifetime.
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An add-on with a special edition packed in. You can say the same thing about Persona 3's SE & CoD3's SE, or Oblivions GoTY edition.