@zeromous, Just because someone does not have a high understanding of technology, that does not mean they have low intelligence. And you just called people that some stereotype under the word you used as ignorant through your counterargument. So please don't use my choice of words to twist the argument. The way you used the word was in a way to imply that my words had conveyed that meaning. So, again, please don't use my choice of words to twist the argument.
Many people, if not the majority, fit into the category of uninformed about HDTV and the related HD sources such as Blu-Ray movies - various media outlets large and small have highlighted this fact and manufacturers have also highlighted this fact (if people were so informed on HDTV, don't you think that more people would be adopting it and things like Blu-Ray at a quicker pace). Also, I never said they were unwilling to do the "proper research."
Also, the number of people that own HDTVs will never reach 100% as cable/satellite/paid TV service and color TVs do not even have those numbers. Also, it takes time for things like HDTV to be taken up as for any technology - though they always reach a high saturation point sooner or later.
Further discussion of this matter should probably move to a more suitable location as much of this does not have a direct link to LittleBigPlanet and may take away from some more direct discussion of the title.
RE: deviantart, yes I have an idle da account containing a collection of my photos of street art. My mom is extremely active photographer (that's her "video game"). On DA I am zerophoto and she is wytrvn
Sounds like you and I agree a lot on what will happen. Time will tell of course!
Fair enough, people will have trouble connecting things and all, I mean the Xbox360 doesn't even have HDMI so it really is an example in customer confusion.
As for the 10 year lifetime, TV sales have been flat pre-flatscreen since everyone knew about the digital cutover, but weren't sure if it was safe. Those people are buying tvs over the life the of the ps3.
These issues are old, and non-existent now, and yes with americans receiving up to 1200$ in rebates from their government this year, al ot of TVs are going to be bought, all HD. A lot of PS2s will all be replaced as well. With what? Nobody knows for sure, but I definately believe people will say something like this:
Sony(I trust the PS2) + 1 + cool HD movie thingbob = same prices as xbox360.
I'll go with the thing that has the cool movie thingbob and the name I trust, whether I have an HDMI cable or not.
I honestly don't understand why so many people are speaking out against this idea but everyone is entitled to their opinion. It doesn't change the fact the PS3 will sell multi-millions more than the 360 globally unless something truly drastic happens (like MS wins japan). This bodes well for LBP and the average joe gamer who we at least can all agree, likes value.
Wii = Value PS3 = New Tech, Value 360 = Breakage, Online costs, similar price as PS3, no new tech, more pack in. Value?
I don't know who you're talking about, but that generation is fading as the tech speeds up. Maybe Grandmas expect a tv to last Ten years but I don't know anyone today that thinks of owning a t.v. for ten years.
Most people I know go for Five unless it cost upwards of $700. At that price, you can get hd rather easily.
That's what I'm getting at. With everyone going digital, hd movie sales will spike at least slightly, as everyone gets things to go along with their new t.v.
I've been with the lowest class men before, many of them know more about tech than their employers. One of my family members, is one such example. Until one of them brought out his ps3, he didn't even know Sony had made the next-gen console. He was still stuck in Nintendo mind-set.
We all miss one thing in this game (and next-gen consoles): Time. Time brings people to the knowledge of new things. You can't avoid the tech section of Wal-Mart forever, though I prefer Target.
Zeromous: You have a Deviantart acc? AND your mom? Mine just floats around the sites of the major news companies reading the latest bull "studies" and percentages.
It would be interesting to see how many of those 14% have it hooked up correctly, or even have anything HD compatible hooked up to their HDTV at all.
That's not a comment on the average intelligence. I need two hands to count the number of "tech savvy" friends who phoned me to ask why there 360 wasn't kicking out in HD despite me reminding them beforehand to "flick the switch at the back over to HDTV because *everyone* forgets.
For sure, if you're buying a brand new TV this year, it's most likely it'll be HDTV compatible but most people expect their TV's to last 10 years. I'm not sure "very quickly" is a phrase I'd use when talking about HDTV adoption.
IMO, the point is moot as the importance of Blu-Ray with regards to PS3 sales is overstated.
Excuse you, I didn't quote you. I used a pejorative in single quotes (since I was paraphrasing) that you obviously take offense to, but I thought we were talking about ignorant American consumers. Considering I was commenting on your lowly view of the intelligence of these people I feel the pejorative is apt. Don't use my choice of words to twist the argument.
Yes they (uninformed consumers of anything) do exist as you point out. Ok so grandmas are confused by Blu-ray. 5 years ago, my mother was confused by the internet, now she is featured on deviantart.com and uses photoshop nearly as well as I do. Your correlation that most people fit into the category of the uninformed and unwilling to do proper research is the only thing propping up your conclusion.
@sagexsdx, 14% and rising every day. I guess that means currently available statistics being used in this argument couldn't possibly predict the amount of growth this industry will see, I mean other than the fact that it is nearly impossible to get a TV that isn't HD compatible these days. That number will very quickly climb to near 100%.
@zeromous, Excuse you? Since when have I even used the word 'redneck', that is a degrading term and I believe it is simply not needed in this discussion.
I think this quote from Gizmodo is a good example of how some consumers are confused by Blu-Ray:
"So, Mark, this would replace a dvd...so I would need a new player? I had heard about it at best buy yesterday and did not understand. Are there blue ray tvs? or is that a whole other thing? Mom"
It is an issue that consumers are not understanding Blu-Ray and HDTV as a whole (something highlighted by many news outlets over the past year or so). Also, everything I mentioned is an issue and each thing takes away some possible customers. I remember a survey from last year and it found that a very large number of those who owned a HDTV did not have it hooked up to a HD source - obviously consumer education is an issue, why do you think companies like Apple make money when they simplify things?
i have no article to cite (and i know 99% of statistics are false) but i heard the percentage of people in america that have an HD TV is still only about 14%.
I'm sorry but your view of the average 'redneck' is low indeed. I get asked about blu-ray all the time. Everyone I speak to about it is intelligent enough to ask the right questions, such as "I hear the ps3 is a cheaper blu-ray player, why, what is the difference?" Most people do know there is a format war going on. They don't go into Best Buy with blinders on. We're not talking about people who don't care here, they just won't buy in the first place!
I too was happy with my CRT, but that didn't stop me from buying an LCD once my neighbours started getting them. What you are asking Dazer to address is simply not an issue.
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Just because someone does not have a high understanding of technology, that does not mean they have low intelligence. And you just called people that some stereotype under the word you used as ignorant through your counterargument. So please don't use my choice of words to twist the argument. The way you used the word was in a way to imply that my words had conveyed that meaning. So, again, please don't use my choice of words to twist the argument.
Many people, if not the majority, fit into the category of uninformed about HDTV and the related HD sources such as Blu-Ray movies - various media outlets large and small have highlighted this fact and manufacturers have also highlighted this fact (if people were so informed on HDTV, don't you think that more people would be adopting it and things like Blu-Ray at a quicker pace). Also, I never said they were unwilling to do the "proper research."
Also, the number of people that own HDTVs will never reach 100% as cable/satellite/paid TV service and color TVs do not even have those numbers. Also, it takes time for things like HDTV to be taken up as for any technology - though they always reach a high saturation point sooner or later.
Further discussion of this matter should probably move to a more suitable location as much of this does not have a direct link to LittleBigPlanet and may take away from some more direct discussion of the title.