I get it Joe, it just doesn't make sense to include them as they are separate products. They are tracked separately at every level of retail except well, on the TSE prediction market! How can we give accurate predictions if not comparing apples to apples or in this case, SKU to SKU worldwide (japan + pal + us-ntsc).
I think it makes perfect sense to trade Persona3 and Special Edition Persona 3 seperately. These are separate SKUs with different considerations over the original releases driving their sales! Furthermore, dual media games like Warhawk also have this problem unless we trade editions seperately.
We track metacritic scores, futures by month. How does that make sense, but not to trade long stocks by SKU?
@zeromous, I was just trying to explain the differences between the scenario you suggested compared to my examples. Of course SMW sales on separate platforms, especially home vs portable platforms, should be considered separate in sales.
In determining lifetime sales of games I don't think I agree with separating every version of a game on 1 platform into separate stocks. I don't think it makes sense to say Persona 3 sold X and putting its later Special Edition into its own stock, or doing this for Oblivion & Oblivion GotYE, or for CoD3 & CoDGE, or for MGS3 & MGSS. They still contain the games of the original releases and generally add additions, features, levels, etc.
That's a pretty fuzzy line you're drawing there. All this special case rules to deal with what should simply be a seperate product.
Do sales of Super Mario World count the same for both GBA and SNES? Of Course not.
A seperate SKU should have a seperate stock. It only makes perfect sense where this SE policy (which I have not seen or read anywhere) seems to create confusion and debate.
We contacted Ryan Payton at Kojima Productions, who was handling the MGS4 demo behind closed doors at the Tokyo Game Show, about the possibility of the demo being released. While he said the team would be interested in considering the release of a Metal Gear Solid Demo, there are no plans to release the TGS demo over the PSN at this time, or potentially ever.
@zeromous, Those are two separate games. So MGS4 comes with a starter edition of MGO, that is different than Persona 3 FES which contains the whole regular Persona 3 game, as does CoD3 GoTE & Oblivion. Furthermore the games I stated had their SE come out after the main game that was included, you're talking about a starter edition of a game coming out before the main game. I think when games come with a starter edition (of a separate game) or something of that sort, they should be considered separate in sales. GT5 Prologue is a starter edition of GT5, though different than the MGS example you gave, it is the most similar I can think of. I believe in the past with GT4 Prologue its sales were considered separate but I'm not sure, it shall be interesting to see if GT5 Prologue sales are included in GT5 sales or not by both the Industry & the SE. GT5 Prologue while presumably still free for DL, will apparently cost money on Bluray so that clouds things even further.
@zeromous, I think Subsistence would count toward MGS3 based on previous SE policy. For instance the special edition of Persona 3 in JA was counted toward the regular Persona 3 sales, CoD3 special editions were counted toward regular CoD3 sales. MGO & MGS4 are 2 separate games, while Subsistence was a special edition of MGS3.
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I get it Joe, it just doesn't make sense to include them as they are separate products. They are tracked separately at every level of retail except well, on the TSE prediction market! How can we give accurate predictions if not comparing apples to apples or in this case, SKU to SKU worldwide (japan + pal + us-ntsc).
I think it makes perfect sense to trade Persona3 and Special Edition Persona 3 seperately. These are separate SKUs with different considerations over the original releases driving their sales! Furthermore, dual media games like Warhawk also have this problem unless we trade editions seperately.
We track metacritic scores, futures by month. How does that make sense, but not to trade long stocks by SKU?